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| Viper550 |
Posted: Jul 10 2011, 10:33 PM
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| wearetheborg |
Posted: Jul 10 2011, 10:41 PM
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Does this mean we can all ditch SL and move to CentOS? Does CentOS have the same repo conflict issues as SL, or are their official repos much larger?
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| NeoAmsterdam |
Posted: Jul 10 2011, 10:57 PM
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I think it means that 3rd party repos are now going to feel some strong peer-pressure regarding their RHEL 6 repos...
Happy 6th, CentOS. Glad you could make it |
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| spoovy |
Posted: Jul 10 2011, 11:02 PM
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So presumably work starts hard on 6.1 tomorrow..
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| Viper550 |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 01:01 AM
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| joutlan |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 02:19 AM
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![]() SLF Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admins Posts: 1144 Member No.: 1 Joined: 8-April 11 |
'borg....I still don't know what you mean about repo problems...I don't have any problems with repos...try using it yourself and see for yourself
Anyone is free to use whatever distro they want. I myself am waiting on SL 6.1 final which should be right around the corner. But I'm not vested in CentOS as many companies are, so it's a matter of current position with servers, etc. although Patrick posted a conversion guide for the brave -------------------- DΞLL Precision M6700: 17 inch NB//i7-quad w/USB 3.0, 16.0GB, Quadro K5000M 2.0GB DDR3, RGBLED //W8P64/Scientific Linux 6.4 x64
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| Jcink |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 02:27 AM
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Having too many repos put together is known to cause conflicts, you will probably end up with the same trouble if you do it on centos. It's not a distro specific issue. The centos base repos are probably going to offer about the same exact stuff as the scientific linux ones.
The only difference here is that CentOS has always had an "extras" repo of their own. This will probably prove to be a big benefit to both C6 and SL6. |
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| redman |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 05:55 AM
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![]() SLF Admin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admins Posts: 1660 Member No.: 2 Joined: 8-April 11 |
Thanks for the friendly advise. If you feel CentOS to be more your thing and please go ahead. People who use CentOS will have to use the same 3rd party repos. So you not gain anything by moving to CentOS. As for the problems, it is all very simple. You need to decide which ones you are going to enable. It all comes down to choice. Enabling all or the wrong ones (= combining) and you will be in dependency-heaven. -------------------- What is SL? - Forum Rules - Info on 3rd Party Repos - How to post images - How to post large text / config files
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| U308 |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 07:41 AM
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SLF Advocate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 485 Member No.: 32 Joined: 11-April 11 |
Does that mean you are not running SL6 at all, seeing you are 'waiting' for SL6.1 ? I suppose I can update my SL6 to SL6.1 once released ? Are there any pointers how best to do this ? For instance with CentOS 5x on my old laptop the following update procedure was recommended:- yum clean all yum update glibc\* yum update yum\* rpm\* python\* yum clean all yum update mkinitrd nash yum update kernel\* yum update shutdown -r now (Although a simple yum update seems to also work). |
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| wearetheborg |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 06:17 PM
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I gather that SL has a bigger development team than CentOS(is it true?), so doesnt that mean that SL should have more of their own packages than CentOS? Does that also mean that SL has a stronger future than CentOS? -------------------- |
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| spoovy |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 07:24 PM
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I think there are only a couple of core CentOS devs, plus QA ppl, while I think SL has four people working on it, though non are on it full-time.
SL looks in a healthier state than CentOS at the moment from my chair, but others might disagree. There are other clones to consider as well though 'borg, not just CentOS and SL. See http://scientificlinuxforum.org/index.php?showtopic=201 -------------------- |
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| wearetheborg |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 07:39 PM
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Thanks, I was under the impression SL had a much bigger team, and lots of funding from various sources. -------------------- |
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| joutlan |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 09:51 PM
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Govt owned, so its a bottomless pit of funding -------------------- DΞLL Precision M6700: 17 inch NB//i7-quad w/USB 3.0, 16.0GB, Quadro K5000M 2.0GB DDR3, RGBLED //W8P64/Scientific Linux 6.4 x64
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| NeoAmsterdam |
Posted: Jul 11 2011, 10:14 PM
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I don't think that's quite how the funding works. But if it is, it'd be yet another fine example of "your tax-dollar at work"! |
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| joutlan |
Posted: Jul 12 2011, 01:05 AM
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Yep, it was a joke But Fermilab is gov't funded, and the SL programmers are on payroll. That's pretty much the long and short of it.The lead developer has a Masters in Computer Science, and a Bachelors in Physics....so if you're worried about qualifications, don't be -------------------- DΞLL Precision M6700: 17 inch NB//i7-quad w/USB 3.0, 16.0GB, Quadro K5000M 2.0GB DDR3, RGBLED //W8P64/Scientific Linux 6.4 x64
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| U308 |
Posted: Jul 12 2011, 07:35 AM
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Bump. I suppose it's best to wait and then follow your advice on best way to update. |
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| joutlan |
Posted: Jul 12 2011, 09:36 PM
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I've been running SL6.0 since the same week it was released on all my machines. I'm just "waiting" or "anxious" for 6.1, that's all I meant ![]() -------------------- DΞLL Precision M6700: 17 inch NB//i7-quad w/USB 3.0, 16.0GB, Quadro K5000M 2.0GB DDR3, RGBLED //W8P64/Scientific Linux 6.4 x64
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| wearetheborg |
Posted: Jul 12 2011, 09:52 PM
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I need to read up on repo stuff and configuration as SL 6.1 is around the corner!! No more delaying now.. -------------------- |
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| scottro |
Posted: Jul 12 2011, 10:59 PM
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Has anyone yet recommended the package management articles on the CentOS wiki? (I might have done so.)
They give a good run down of the different repos--even though it's still, at this point, probably written for CentOS 5, it gives you a very good idea of what can be mixed and not mixed. |
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| joutlan |
Posted: Jul 13 2011, 12:08 AM
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![]() SLF Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admins Posts: 1144 Member No.: 1 Joined: 8-April 11 |
Good for you....that actually would be a good time for a new install, i.e. right after 6.1 is released. -------------------- DΞLL Precision M6700: 17 inch NB//i7-quad w/USB 3.0, 16.0GB, Quadro K5000M 2.0GB DDR3, RGBLED //W8P64/Scientific Linux 6.4 x64
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| redman |
Posted: Jul 13 2011, 05:56 AM
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![]() SLF Admin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admins Posts: 1660 Member No.: 2 Joined: 8-April 11 |
Actually we have info on 3rd party repos. Although each user needs to decide which repos (s)he needs. CentOS can formulate which repos can or shouldn't be mixed. The Scientific Linux Forum can not since we are not part of SL. -------------------- What is SL? - Forum Rules - Info on 3rd Party Repos - How to post images - How to post large text / config files
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