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redman
 Posted: Jul 3 2011, 08:57 PM
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For those who feel that Firefox 5 is irrelevant and totally pointless, they should have a look at the SeaMonkey RPMS which can be downloaded at linuxtech.net.

Download SeaMonkey 2.1 for x86_64 only (no i386/i686 package).


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Good call redman. I always liked seamonkey, and with the recent Firefox nonsense I might switch back to it.


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tux99
 Posted: Jul 3 2011, 10:16 PM
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Seamonkey and Firefox use the same rendering engine, the difference between them is really just the look and feel of the GUI (and of course Seamonkey also includes an email program a news reader a html editor and an IRC client).

While the GUI of Firefox seems to be deliberately dumbed-down (following the IMHO misguided idea that the average John Doe at whom Firefox is targeted can only handle a dumbed-down GUI), the Seamonkey GUI has a lot more options and settings to personalise the browser to suit individual tastes.

Seamonkey still looks a lot like the glorious Netscape Communicator of old days, and that's IMHO a good thing.

With regards to i686, I will eventually get round to build i686 versions of my packages too, I just need to find the time to set up a separate i686 build VM. sad.gif


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 Posted: Jul 9 2011, 02:11 PM
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Seamonkey 2.2 (which uses the same page rendering engine as Firefox 5.0) is out and my package for SL6 is on it's way.

If all goes well it will be in my testing repo later today.

(Seamonkey takes a looooong time to build, ~3 hours on my dual core SL6 VM...)


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 Posted: Jul 9 2011, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (tux99 @ Jul 9 2011, 04:11 PM)
If all goes well it will be in my testing repo later today.

Hopefully without the need for other packages / repos?
Can it be downloaded and installed like Firefox 5 or are there specific dependencies?


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QUOTE (redman @ Jul 9 2011, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE (tux99 @ Jul 9 2011, 04:11 PM)
If all goes well it will be in my testing repo later today.

Hopefully without the need for other packages / repos?
Can it be downloaded and installed like Firefox 5 or are there specific dependencies?


My Seamonkey package only depends on packages from the official SL6 repo, no third party dependencies and no other packages from my repo are needed to install and use Seamonkey.


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tux99
 Posted: Jul 9 2011, 09:32 PM
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The Seamonkey 2.2 RPM for SL6 (64bit only) is now available in my 'testing' repo (see link below).

Please provide feedback if you try it out.

I have only tested it for a few minutes so far, but in a few days if no issues with it have been found, I will move the package to the 'release' repo.

UPDATE: I have moved the Seamonkey 2.2 RPM to the 'release' repo now since it seem to be working well.


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SeaMonkey 2.3 (equivalent to Firefox 6) is now available in my testing repository (for SL6 x86_64).

If I don't find any issues with the package (and if nobody reports any issues with it) then I will move it from the testing to the release repository in a few days.



P.S: Redman or any other mod can you please change the subject of this thread to "SeaMonkey for SL6" rather than "SeaMonkey 2.1" to better reflect the content of the thread?


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QUOTE (tux99 @ Aug 18 2011, 01:03 PM)
P.S: Redman or any other mod can you please change the subject of this thread to "SeaMonkey for SL6" rather than "SeaMonkey 2.1" to better reflect the content of the thread?

Done wink.gif


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 Posted: Aug 18 2011, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (redman @ Aug 18 2011, 04:11 PM)

Done  wink.gif


Thanks, BTW you might like that one of the bookmarks I placed on the default personal toolbar in the Seamonkey package is to this forum! smile.gif


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 Posted: Aug 18 2011, 07:24 PM
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I reckon I suck, I just run Firefox from a folder, up-dates are easy... http://th166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/rdshear/Smiley%20Faces/th_smiley-face-thumbs-up.gif
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 Posted: Aug 18 2011, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (burtb08 @ Aug 18 2011, 08:24 PM)
I reckon I suck, I just run Firefox from a folder, up-dates are easy...  http://th166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/rdshear/Smiley%20Faces/th_smiley-face-thumbs-up.gif


That's fine, but the official build uses up more memory than a distro specific build, since it comes with it's own copies of all libraries that it needs, rather than using the system libraries as a distro specific build would do.

Also this thread is about Seamonkey which is far superior than Firefox.


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I do agree.
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 Posted: Aug 24 2011, 12:43 AM
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Seamonkey 2.3.1 is now available as x86_64 package for SL6 in my testing repo (see link below).

This replaces the Seamonkey 2.3 package that I made available a week ago.

If I don't find any issues with the package (and if nobody reports any issues with it) then I will move it from the testing to the release repository in a few days.


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Seamonkey 2.4 (equivalent to Firefox 7) built for SL6 (x86_64) is now available in my release repository (see signature below for link).

According to the release notes Seamonkey 2.4 / Firefox 7 have drastically improved memory use so the upgrade should be well worth it.
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.4/
http://blog.mozilla.com/nnethercote/2011/08/09/firefox-7-is-lean-and-fast-2/


Any feedback with regards to the package is always welcome!


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QUOTE (tux99 @ Sep 28 2011, 04:19 PM)
Seamonkey 2.4 (equivalent to Firefox 7) built for SL6 (x86_64) is now available in my release repository (see signature below for link).

According to the release notes Seamonkey 2.4 / Firefox 7 have drastically improved memory use so the upgrade should be well worth it.
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.4/
http://blog.mozilla.com/nnethercote/2011/08/09/firefox-7-is-lean-and-fast-2/


Any feedback with regards to the package is always welcome!

tux99, hello,

I have finally installed your repo from which I have also obtained Handbrake.
Now, never ever having tried Seamonkey, I think I really must have a look.
Is it possible to install alongside my Firefox 3.6x without any conflicts at all,
or would you recommend removing FF 3.6x incl. xulrunner before Seamonkey
install ?
Regarding the recently exposed SSl vulnerability for https sites using TLS1.1, the good
news is that Firefox appears not to be affected although it is recommended to remove
Java add-ons. https://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/09/27/attack-against-tls-protected-communications/
I trust the same is true for Seamonkey ?

Many thanks for looking after the not so well versed linux users by building those
packages ! Keep up the good work !

PS. I have forgotten. When installing Seamonkey with yum will I be asked to accept the gpgkey, or should I place it in /etc/pki/rpm-gpg manually. (I am pretty sure yum will ask).

PS.2. I have looked in the job jar for you and found Openshot. wink.gif


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Good god gracious me!
This browser numbering war start to make my head to spin xD
I use FF 3.6 and Seamonkey 2.2.
Seams to me, they do upgrades by increasing the numbers of version on FF lately biggrin.gif



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QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 28 2011, 07:07 PM)

Is it possible to install alongside my Firefox 3.6x without any conflicts at all,
or would you recommend removing FF 3.6x incl. xulrunner before Seamonkey
install ?

Seamonkey comes with it's own xulrunner (since it's a far newer version than the one that comes with the default SL6 FF 3.6x). It can be installed without problems alongside the default SL6 Firefox, that's what I have done here on my install.

QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 28 2011, 07:07 PM)
Regarding the recently exposed SSl vulnerability for https sites using TLS1.1, the good
news is that Firefox appears not to be affected although it is recommended to remove
Java add-ons. I trust the same is true for Seamonkey ?


I'm no security expert, but I assume when mozilla says Firefox is not affected they refer to the latest FF7. Since SM2.4 is basically FF7+Thunderbird7 just with a different GUI and some other extras, I would assume that what they say about FF7 applies to SM2.4, too.

QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 28 2011, 07:07 PM)
PS. I have forgotten. When installing Seamonkey with yum will I be asked to accept the gpgkey, or should I place it in /etc/pki/rpm-gpg manually. (I am pretty sure yum will ask).

I'm not sure since I placed the key manually on my box, but you likely will get asked or worst case get a 'missing key' error and then have to place it manually.

QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 28 2011, 07:07 PM)
PS.2. I have looked in the job jar for you and found Openshot.  wink.gif
Join the queue, lemonzest is still waiting for 'mame' (sorry lemonzest, mame doesn't seem trivial so I haven't found the time for it yet). sad.gif


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QUOTE (helikaon @ Sep 28 2011, 09:27 PM)
Good god gracious me!
This browser numbering war start to make my head to spin  xD
I use FF 3.6 and Seamonkey 2.2.
Seams to me, they do upgrades by increasing the numbers of version on FF lately  biggrin.gif


If you currently use SM 2.2 then you should upgrade it to 2.4, since there have been quite a few bugfixes and security fixes since 2.2. The upgrade should be smooth since AFAIK there haven't been any major incompatible changes between 2.2 and 2.4.

At least the SM version numbers are increasing more sensibly! smile.gif

BTW, FF3.6x is ok to continue using, since RH/SL will make sure we always get bugfixes and security fixes for it for as long as RHEL6 / SL6 is supported (that's one of the great things about using a long term support distro!). http://th166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/rdshear/Smiley%20Faces/th_smiley-face-thumbs-up.gif


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QUOTE (tux99 @ Sep 28 2011, 11:11 PM)


QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 28 2011, 07:07 PM)
Regarding the recently exposed SSl vulnerability for https sites using TLS1.1, the good
news is that Firefox appears not to be affected although it is recommended to remove
Java add-ons. I trust the same is true for Seamonkey ?


I'm no security expert, but I assume when mozilla says Firefox is not affected they refer to the latest FF7. Since SM2.4 is basically FF7+Thunderbird7 just with a different GUI and some other extras, I would assume that what they say about FF7 applies to SM2.4, too.


I am also not sure but we have Giorgio Maone, of NoScript fame, saying this here

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This is the bug I originally referred to. While the protocol itself was and is vulnerable, the specific websocket implementation in Firefox was found not to be exploitable.


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First time i have used Seamonkey and I must say I am impressed.
Have noticed 2 minor 'faults' - for lack of a better description.
1. In Add Ons the DOM Inspector states that it is incompatible with SM 2.4
2. In NoScript under ABE the WAN IP is not shown - just ???? (FF3.6x shows it)
Otherwise really nice.

BTW. I did need to manually place the gpgkey in /etc/pki/rpm-gpg

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Thanks for the feedback, it's much appreciated!
QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 30 2011, 07:14 PM)
First time i have used Seamonkey and I must say I am impressed.
Seamonkey is a well kept secret. wink.gif

QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 30 2011, 07:14 PM)

Have noticed 2 minor 'faults'  - for lack of a better description.
1. In Add Ons the DOM Inspector states that it is incompatible with SM 2.4
2. In NoScript under ABE the WAN IP is not shown - just ???? (FF3.6x shows it)

I will check later to see if these bugs are specific to my package or upstream bugs (I have a feeling they are upstream bugs).

QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 30 2011, 07:14 PM)
BTW. I did need to manually place the gpgkey in  /etc/pki/rpm-gpg
I thought so. I think the only way to automate that would be if I create a repo rpm package for my repo, but I consider that very low priority, since copying 2 files (the repo file and the key) manually to the right places shouldn't be a problem for anyone.
Also I think repo rpm packages like the other repos have are not necessarily a good thing, it incentivates people to just install all repos without thinking, and then they end up with a dependency mess...


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After disable/enable DOM Inspector now fine. http://th166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/rdshear/Smiley%20Faces/th_smiley-face-thumbs-up.gif No luck yet with NoScript's ABE. I did notice that
there was no ABE folder placed in ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/xxxxxx.default so I tried my luck by
copying this folder from the equivalent FF directory, but WAN IP still not detected.

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Apple Trailers - can do with FF3.6x not with Seamonkey. http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/
Flash, Java, OK.
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U308
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OK ABE is detecting the IP. It does this either by unticking 'Use Http Proxy Settings for all Protocols'
(I use a proxy for my ISP), or by ticking 'Direct Connection to the Internet'.

So that niggle is solved for me. smile.gif
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QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 30 2011, 07:14 PM)
1. In Add Ons the DOM Inspector states that it is incompatible with SM 2.4

Ok I can reproduce this too (including your fix of disabling/re-enabling it), this is an upstream bug and it has already been reported:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=691021
QUOTE (U308 @ Sep 30 2011, 07:14 PM)
2. In NoScript under ABE the WAN IP is not shown - just ???? (FF3.6x shows it)

I cannot reproduce this issue, it must be specific to your circumstances. On my test box (SL6.1 with my SM2.4 rpm) I see my WAN IP under Options / Advanced / ABE.
I simply installed NoScript from the Add-ons manager without changing any of it's options.


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