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> Alan Cox on Fedora 18
tux99
 Posted: Jan 24 2013, 04:16 PM
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On his Google+ page yesterday, Alan Cox wrote:
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    So Fedora 18 seems to be the worst Red Hat distro I've ever seen.

    The new installer is unusable, the updater is buggy. When you get it running the default desktop has been eviscerated to the point of being slightly less useful than a chocolate teapot, and instead of fixing the bugs in it they've added more.

    It can't even manage to write valid initrds for itself instead on one machine of simply bombing into a near undebuggable systemd error (same kernel with F17 and F17 dracut works so its the dracut stuff)

    systemd-cryptosetup-generator: Failed to create unit file .... : File exists

    Yeah wonderful. Time to re-install that box, and not with Fedora.


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Fedora 18 is supposed to be the base for RHEL7, looks like they have a lot of work to do still... ohmy.gif

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 Posted: Jan 24 2013, 04:40 PM
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redman
 Posted: Jan 24 2013, 06:21 PM
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Ha ha ... you beat me Tux99, I was going to post the same kind of posting (including the RHEL7 bit) laugh.gif laugh.gif

But seriously, these kind of things aren't good news. Regardless of your favorite distro, when major players like Ubuntu andRed Hat are doing these kind of ... different ... things (I wonder why, is it because the new kind of devs look to much towards Windows as zxq9 pointed out)? I really hate it when good things are messed up simply because somebody feels "we need to change" for the sake of chaning. Sorry, I'm ranting http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2835777/BangHead1.gif

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scottro
 Posted: Jan 25 2013, 07:34 PM
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I think the new type devs grew up in the GUI generation, never had to worry about resources--that is, the old generation, so to speak, had very little memory and so on with which to work..

Also, in the old days, whenever they may have been, most developers did a lot of sysadmin work and vice versa. Much of the time, to be a sysadmin, you had to be a developer. The developers these days are thinking about laptops that get a DHCP wireless address at Starbucks. Ok, a bit of an exaggeration, but for example, the hostctrl command that is replacing editing sysconfig/network, has a man page using something like mylaptop as a sample. The default gives a name like myhostmydomaincom, rather than myhost.mydomain.com

On the other hand, a few days after supposedly shifting to Ubuntu, Mr. Cox announced that he's going to stop working on Linux--maybe they were even worse. smile.gif

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 Posted: Mar 9 2013, 10:12 PM
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Ubuntu most assuredly IS even worse. Has been for some time. However, taking Cox's words at face value, his move is strictly for family reasons. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/24/alan_cox_quits_linux_development/
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