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> CentOS security updates faster than SL ?
synflag
 Posted: Oct 11 2012, 05:29 AM
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Well, the title is all "CentOS security updates faster than SL ?"
I can see that CentOS (https://twitter.com/CentOS_Announce) security updates (FAST TRACK) are more faster and mores than SL (http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1210&L=scientific-linux-errata&T=0&P=608)

gnome-desktop for example, is not in the list of SL, but yes on CentOS and Red Hat (https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2012-1352.html)

Any idea if SL team is a bit slow?.

I run 4-5 VPS with SL, and i'm worried about the security of SL compared with CentOS.
Is recommendable a migration to CentOS?

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 Posted: Oct 11 2012, 09:45 AM
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Sometimes its few hours. But I wouldn't say its too slow so that you have to change your OS.
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 Posted: Oct 11 2012, 10:38 AM
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I would like to recall the time when CentOS didn't release them at all and people switched over to SL.
Apparently SL is a bit slow(er) than CentOS.
Hold your pants on, nothing to worry about. There are no updates that critical that you need to have them applied within 24 hours wink.gif

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 Posted: Oct 11 2012, 04:54 PM
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I would say, both are "fast" enough from the security point of view. If you start talking about hours' difference, then yes, one would be "faster" than the other. Take, for example, the very latest critical updates to firefox and thunderbird. If I'm not mistaken, SL released them before CentOS. Currently the libvirt security has been announced by SL, but not by CentOS (yet). But I'm certain it will be out from CentOS any minute now. My point is that relative speed is not important. SL has always been great as far as security updates are concerned. CentOS had a troubled past as redman said, but they are now stabilized as far as I can see.

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 Posted: Oct 11 2012, 06:02 PM
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I was not talking about speed only but also about quantity.
For instance, gnome-desktop, and others published by red hat followed by CentOS while on the bug/security list of SL they don't even appear.
I'm focusing also on the omission of packages (red hat errata) not only on speed

So, SL team consideres that some updates are not important ? or they just didn't notice them ?

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 Posted: Oct 11 2012, 06:10 PM
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Are you referring to this gnome-desktop bug fix update?

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2012-1352.html

This is not a security update but a bug fix. SL publishes non-security updates in the 'fastbugs' repo once a week.

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 Posted: Oct 11 2012, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (toracat @ Oct 11 2012, 03:10 PM)
Are you referring to this gnome-desktop bug fix update?

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2012-1352.html

This is not a security update but a bug fix. SL publishes non-security updates in the 'fastbugs' repo once a week.


1 week?, uhm
Yes and gnome-keyring:

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CEBA-2012:1334 CentOS 6 gnome-keyring Update - http://goo.gl/99XTW #centos

http://www.mail-archive.com/centos-announce@centos.org/msg06910.html

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2012-1334.html
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Why SL publishes non-security updates once a week?.
Maybe is not a security update, but, is a bugfix and i see that CentOS follow redhat as fast as possible, while SL not, why?

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 Posted: Oct 11 2012, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (synflag @ Oct 11 2012, 11:12 PM)

Maybe is not a security update, but, is a bugfix and i see that CentOS follow redhat as fast as possible, while SL not, why?


Maybe ask this question on the SL mailing list, there you will likely get an answer from the devs themselves, here there are no SL devs.

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 Posted: Oct 11 2012, 10:39 PM
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A bugfix for gnome-desktop and gnome-keyring on a server-oriented distro isn't something most people need ASAP. The 'once a week'-approach seems very reasonable to me, but if you prefer 'faster' updates, no one's stopping you from using CentOS.

Also, as has already been said, try asking questions regarding the way the SL team works on the SL mailinglist, that's where the devs hang out.
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 Posted: Oct 12 2012, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (Nathan @ Oct 11 2012, 07:39 PM)
A bugfix for gnome-desktop and gnome-keyring on a server-oriented distro isn't something most people need ASAP. The 'once a week'-approach seems very reasonable to me, but if you prefer 'faster' updates, no one's stopping you from using CentOS.

Also, as has already been said, try asking questions regarding the way the SL team works on the SL mailinglist, that's where the devs hang out.


Yes, is true, is no critical on a server, but, i'm using SL6.3 on workstations too.

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